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    <title>In Defense of Marriage</title>
    <summary>Three years and one day ago, I got married. And then shortly after that, I wrote a post about getting married, which has become one...</summary>
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      <name>Anil</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Three years and one day ago, I got married. And then shortly after that, I <a href="http://www.dashes.com/anil/2005/10/post.html">wrote a post about getting married</a>, which has become one of the most popular things I've ever written. If I have to be known for something, I'll definitely take that as a good representation of my work.</p>

<p>But one of the ideas that I didn't talk about back then was what a <em>terrible reputation</em> marriage has. Having had most of my impressions of marriage and weddings informed by popular culture and the examples of society around me growing up, I got a rather skewed vision of what married life is like. This is especially true because my marriage started in a way that was necessarily very different from that of my parents. (Theirs was, by western standards, an "arranged" marriage, though I wouldn't describe the situation quite so glibly.)</p>

<p>At any rate, here's what nobody ever told me about being married and having a wife and maintaining a marriage, based on (an admittedly rather limited, compared to long successful marriages) a great three years.</p>


<ul>
<li><strong>It's fun!</strong> You've got somebody you like who goes with you wherever you go, and it's someone who knows your sense of humor and what kind of food you like and what makes you laugh. <span class="caps">BFF</span>!</li>
<li><strong>It doesn't have to be full of bullshit and drama like your single life.</strong> None of that "I don't know if this is what I really want." or "It's not you, it's me." idiocy. You're in there, you're up for the task, and things can just work smoothly every day if you let them. Awesome.</li>
<li><strong>It reduces your sense of obligation.</strong> You get an instant get-out-of-jail-free card for any event or external commitment that you don't want to go to, whether for legitimate reasons or not. You can just talk about how an obligation to your spouse and family takes precedence over whatever else is going on, and any reasonable person has to concede that your absence is justified.</li>
<li><strong>It's so much less work to go out.</strong> Like a lot of guys I know, I was always <em>working</em> when I was single. You have to be "on" all the time, obeying that compulsive curiosity of whether that latest person who walked into the room was The One. If you're like me, there was a lot of subconscious effort going into the work of always talking to the prettiest girl in the room. Now I still do it, I just bring her with me.</li>
<li><strong>The Ball and Chain is for Losers.</strong> I can't emphasize this enough. Adult men I knew growing up, or stereotypical sitcom dads on <span class="caps">TV, </span>were always talking about how "the old lady won't let me" just go and do whatever fun thing they wanted to do. News flash: If that's your life, it's both of your faults for being lame, uncommunicative, lazy bastards. Don't settle for misery. If my wife or I want to go do something, we just let the other know, and if the other person's not up for it, no problem. If they wanna tag along, even better.</li>
<li><strong>Married people are hot and getting hotter.</strong> I had never really done well, <em>anything</em> athletic before I got married. I'm hardly Michael Phelps now, but I am in the best shape of my life, and weigh a few pounds less than I did the day I got married. My wife is in <em>terrific</em> shape (if you're in or near <span class="caps">NYC, </span>go watch the Marathon this weekend and cheer her and her 30,000 closest friends on!) and I think we're both dressing better than we ever have. Even though I'm still very self conscious about the idea of exercising at all, I do it because it's fun and makes me feel good, not because anyone's nagging at me to get off the couch. Amazing what positive motivation can do.</li>
<li><strong>You can just say "screw everybody else" sometimes.</strong> Just like you don't have to feel compelled to socialize all the time, being married means you don't have to justify your weird political beliefs or obscure hobbies or bizarre musical tastes to anybody. You've got one person who's got your back (or puts up with your eccentricities) and if some other random stranger doesn't like it, who cares?</li>
<li><strong>You can have sex whenever you want.</strong> Perhaps the most pernicious and horrible thing people continually say about married life is that you either don't have a sex life or that it gets boring. Tip: If the sex sucks, <span class="caps">YOU'RE DOING</span> IT <span class="caps">WRONG.</span></li>
<li><strong>You become less of an asshole.</strong> All the petty insecurities of the pre-adult years of your life, all the grievances you faced when your only family members you dealt with were those you were born with &mdash; those things start to fade away in a happily married life. If, as is the case for me, both partners genuinely love each other's family, you get a really great set of bonus relatives. In cases when people aren't that lucky, you at least get another sympathetic pair of ears to listen to your complaining about how crazy your family is.</li>
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<p>The thing is, I'm not saying being married is easy, or that it's 100% fun. But <em>it mostly is</em>! I feel like I got hoodwinked as a single guy because I heard marriage described so often as some cross between a prison, being grounded as a misbehaving teen, and being castrated. I don't doubt that lots of people make mistakes in who they marry, and I am not trying to be a pollyanna about the very real fact that a successful marriage takes a lot of dedicated effort, or that some people just can't make it work even with their best efforts. But <strong>most marriages work</strong>, even if the people who don't get it quite right end up being a lot louder about it. And even then usually take another run at it, or a <em>couple</em> of runs at it, until they get it right.</p>

<p>That brings me to my last point. I believe in this institution, and I do believe it makes society better, if only for the simple reason that it tends to make guys like me act much less like assholes than we're inclined to be when we're single.</p>

<p>But just forty one years ago, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia">my marriage may well have been illegal</a>. As a proud and unrepentant lifelong advocate and practitioner of miscegenation, my lifestyle would have been outlawed in many states, and not recognized as legitimate even in some territories where it wasn't explicitly legal.</p>

<p>It is now a historical inevitability that our country will legalize marriage for all couples. Though the fight is particularly polarized right now, and we will naturally face serious setbacks on the way to civil rights for all, I believe the time is close. As we saw in the fight against interracial marriages, the forces against progress are most extreme and invested right when they realize that history is against them. Naturally, my wife and I have donated to support <a href="http://www.noonprop8.com/">No on Prop 8</a> in California.</p>

<p>But my motivation isn't political in this, it's simple and personal and based on my experience as someone who is, and has been, truly in love. In the months before my wife and I got engaged, we got to see a couple who we admire and respect whisk their way up to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_New_York#New_Paltz_marriages">New Paltz</a>, to get married on the only day that they'd be able to do so. These friends of ours have a simple love that is obviously apparent to anyone who's ever met them. That they had to have such a sense of urgency, such an awareness of fleeting opportunity, around an event as momentous as their wedding day, is a blemish on the concept of marriage itself.</p>

<p>Fortunately, we got to take away a much better message. My wife and I saw that people we care about can get married on their own terms, that it doesn't have to be the scary, joyless institution that it's so often portrayed as. Instead, we saw a couple of our friends who have an obvious and abiding sense of humor, who helped us redefine the concept of marriage in <em>our</em> minds so that it could be something fun and stress-free and fulfilling. And it made us comfortable enough with the idea that we knew we were ready to get married ourselves.</p>

<p>It's easy to say "oh, he wants to score political points by saying a gay marriage inspired him to propose to his wife". While that description is accurate, it's not the emotional truth of what happened.  What happened was that seeing a real, honest, unconventional-but-honest marriage inspired my wife and I to commit to one another, which has brought me the greatest and most lasting joy of my life. It is something I'm generally private about, a quiet victory for my own sense of justice.</p>

<p>But there was just a brief window in which our friends' relationship could enjoy the dignity of a simple wedding. There are those determined to shut that window again, though the effort will be futile in the long run. So I'd be remiss if I didn't take the time to point out that denying the right of marriage to any of us attacks and disrespects the institution of marriage for all of us. As it turns out, marriage <em>is</em> worth defending, no matter what you might see on <span class="caps">TV.</span></p>

<p>And to my wife, happy anniversary. I like you!</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Alaina on 2008-10-31</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I like you, too! Happy anniversary.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-10-31T12:58:56Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Zestypete on 2008-10-31</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As they say here in the UK, bless your cotton socks. That's a very nice post-anniversary gift to the missus. </p>

<p><br />
The latter part of your post also made me think of conversations I had with two friends in the course of the same evening about gay marriage. The first was with my girlfriend at the time, who was Jamaican by way of Camberwell (London). She said she didn't approve of gay "lifestyles" in general, much less gay marriage, because the bible said it was wrong. I pointed out that that same bible, the one that she reads so literally, considers her to be property. While she wasn't too happy to admit it, she did concede that it was a pretty pointless argument to make. (We broke up soon after - clearly not meant to be).</p>

<p><br />
The second conversation was with a fairly macho friend who had pretty much the same reaction to the idea of gay marriage, but said it was "unnatural" for two men to have sex. I asked him how he would feel if he lived in a world where he wasn't even allowed walk down a street holding hands with the person he loved without fear of some kind of negative reaction? He changed his mind about the issue right then, saying "I'd never thought of it in terms of love. It was always about sex." </p>

<p><br />
Anyway, nothing to do with marriage per se. But I think these examples highlight something poignant but often forgotten: it's all about love. Not just sex or religion or what is "natural". And there's no room for negativity when it comes to love. </p>

<p><br />
Happy anniversary, you crazy kids. </p>

<p><br />
PS Can I write a guest piece on What They Never Told Me About Having Children? Because I could totally double your average word count...<br />
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    <published>2008-10-31T13:42:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ian McKellar on 2008-10-31</title>
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        <name>Ian McKellar</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Happy Anniversary!</p>

<p>The marriage equality issue has been important to me for a long time. I've had friends who were in love but unable to live in the same country for more than a few months at a time because of discriminatory laws and one of my friends married his husband in Canada and is fighting for recognition back home in Australia.</p>

<p>But getting married has been what's really motivated me. It's awesome. I can't let that be denied to anyone. I'm not a US citizen, just a green card holder (thanks to my right to marry of course), so I can't vote or even donate money to a California proposition, so I'm volunteering: http://loic.livejournal.com/114961.html</p>

<p>Thanks for your support on this issue. It's the civil rights issue of our generation and we're going to win it. In 40 years it'll look as ridiculous as the miscegenation laws do now.</p>

<p>Ian</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-10-31T15:28:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jon on 2008-10-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jon</name>
        <uri>http://jonnaro.vox.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>happy anniversary!</p>

<p>and this is the best post ever, btw.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-10-31T17:24:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Andrea Brocard on 2008-10-31</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Happy Anniversary!</p>

<p>We got married recently and so far I totally agree with marriage being fun   : - )</p>

<p>If it is as well written as this article I would enjoy hearing about "What they never told me about having children"</p>

<p>Andrea</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-10-31T18:27:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ariel on 2008-10-31</title>
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        <name>Ariel</name>
        <uri>http://offbeatbride.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for this post, Anil. If I ever end up writing "Offbeat Wife," I'm absolutely quoting you.</p>

<p>I get so frustrated by people who let marriage define them (ie "Ball 'n' Chain," stereotypical gender roles) without realizing that each of us has the freedom to define our own marriages. </p>

<p>After our wedding four years ago, I got really irked by how, every time I went out without my husband, people would gasp and say "WHERE IS HE?" I was like "People, we are spouses -- not conjoined twins." We still have our separate lives and interests and friends.</p>

<p>Too often, people blame the concept of marriage for their own distorted views of relationship dynamics.</p>

<p>I could go on and on and on ... but for now I'll just say AMEN BRUVVA. And congratulations.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-10-31T18:30:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from mat on 2008-10-31</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Happy anniversary! And great post Anil. You said many things that I've often wanted to say about marriage. The key, I think, to a great marriage is right there in your first point: be best friends. </p>

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<p>Yesterday, immediately after voting for Barack Obama at San Francisco City Hall, I walked upstairs and watched a just-married couple pose for pictures at various points around the rotunda. They were giddy and euphoric; obviously thrilled at the prospect of spending the rest of their lives together. Obviously very much in love. They reminded me very much of myself and my wife, eight years ago last month, when we were the giddy ones, high on each other and oblivious of everything outside of ourselves. </p>

<p>Yet the difference is that both partners in this newlywed couple were gay men. Of course that in no way made their love for each other any less real or valid than the love I feel for my wife. And as I watched another couple, two women, getting ready to say their vows, my mood turned from elation to heartbreak with the realization that this all may end Tuesday. </p>

<p>And I don't understand it. How can anyone be against love?</p>

<p>Because that's what it comes down to. You either support two people's right to make a formal and legal declaration of love and commitment to one another, or you do not. You are either for love, or against it. You either want everyone to enjoy the same fundamental civil rights, or you do not. That's the choice. <br />
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    <published>2008-10-31T20:20:06Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Bob Novak on 2008-10-31</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Happy Anniversary!</p>

<p>Next year my wife and I will have been married 30 years - they have been more wonderful than not but it is still a work in progress.  I am proud to say I'm married to my best friend and, since it sounds like you are of a like mind, I wanted to point you to a website that two friends of mine are running - its http://caffection.com/ - and it is a site that celebrates marriage - for ALL couples.  So again, many blessings for you and yours and, if you like the site please spread the word.  Your support would certainly help and I think that site will help all of those who want to see love recognized and celebrated for all people.</p>

<p>Cheers</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from ethan on 2008-10-31</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Beautiful post, Anil.  I've been reading your blog since we met at IBM...and this post really touched me.  I'm in a serious relationship with the girl who is "the one" -- it's great to hear from a guy on the other side of popping the question say how happy he is so eloquently.   Happy anniversary and happy Halloween too. Cheers! </p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Mrs. Jones on 2008-11-01</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>nice.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Mariah &amp; Byron Edgington on 2008-11-01</title>
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        <name>Mariah &amp; Byron Edgington</name>
        <uri>http://www.caffection.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Your blog is great!  We've linked to it with our Celebrate The Art of Marriage blog today on caffection.blogspot.com.   If you know of other Caffected couples, tell them to pass on the good news of being in a fully committed, healthy relationship!<br />
Caffectionately yours,<br />
Mariah & Byron Edgington<br />
Columbus OH<br />
caffection.com</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Wendy on 2008-11-02</title>
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        <name>Wendy</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"...seeing a real, honest, unconventional-but-honest marriage inspired my wife and I to commit to one another..."</p>

<p>Oops, you meant to write "inspired my wife and me," right?</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin Spencer on 2008-11-02</title>
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        <name>Kevin Spencer</name>
        <uri>http://kevinspencer.org</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post Anil.  I must say that even though I'm not married, I was nodding at all the items on your list.  If you're in a relationship and/or you live together then the majority if not all of your list items still apply.  Just swap the words 'wife' for 'girlfriend' and bob's your uncle mate.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-03T03:14:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660253</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jeff Tidwell on 2008-11-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeff Tidwell</name>
        <uri>http://www.twitter.com/prepop</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks Anil and Congratulations. </p>

<p>I've been married legally and illegally now for 18 years. It's great and it's being challenged. Thanks for the vote of confidence on a day when I'm not so sure how it will end up. </p>

<p>Jeff Tidwell<br />
San Francisco</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-03T18:11:49Z</published>
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    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660254</id>
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    <title>Comment from remi on 2008-11-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>remi</name>
        <uri>http://remi.org</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great post!  Luckily, I enjoy all of those things in my long-term relationship ... it's good to be reminded of all of the wonderful things I enjoy, some of which can be easy to take for granted.</p>

<p><br />
I'm not sure if anything would change if/when my girlfriend and I get married ... but I'm sure it'll happen.  I'm not sure I want to get married before same-sex couples in my state can do the same, however.  We're a heterosexual couple, but ... it just wouldn't seem fair.</p>

<p><br />
I think I'll get married when my gay friends can.  Until then ... who knows?  Maybe we'll get a civil union ... are heterosexual couples allows to get civil unions, or is that just reserved for "those crazy gays"?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-03T20:20:52Z</published>
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    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660258</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kaitlin Duck Sherwood on 2008-11-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kaitlin Duck Sherwood</name>
        <uri>http://webfoot.com/blog</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Anil, once again, you say something I could have written -- or did write, but not as well.<br />
http://www.webfoot.com/blog/2008/10/30/californians-please-vote-no-on-prop-8/</p>

<p>I am a straight woman who loves being married (for many of the same the reasons you mentioned), and it is absolutely true -- not a little bit -- that I would not have gotten married if it had not been for the good example of a male couple.</p>

<p>I want to meet you the next time you're in Vancouver, BC.  :-)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-07T18:20:15Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660259</id>
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    <title>Comment from Nebz on 2008-11-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Nebz</name>
        <uri>http://isladenebz.blogspot.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Happy anniversary.</p>

<p>I'm not married (and I don't know if ever I'll marry).  I did enjoy your writings.  Will visit you again next time.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-08T19:24:22Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660262</id>
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    <title>Comment from Tracey Worthing on 2008-11-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tracey Worthing</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I really thank you for writing this up. I may not be currently married, but I am in a relationship with my boyfriend that is now going on four years. A friend had suggested that we start dating, and she made the perfect match. </p>

<p>I had only been in one other "relationship" before him. The relationship was with a girl and was 6 years of hell that I couldn't get away from. Even after four years, my boyfriend is fixing the old wounds that were left from that girl. After even dating for a year, he had explained that he was sort of dating one of his male friends before moving from Ontario to Manitoba, and meeting me.</p>

<p>Both he and I support gay marriage since we are both bisexual and are proud of it. Even one of our friends (Someone who follows the way of Christianity very closely) supports us and doesn't mind the idea of gay marriage.</p>

<p>I really thank you again for proving that marriage isn't a bad thing like so many try to portray it as. both my parents and my boyfriend's parents were high school sweethearts (for my parents, it was slightly younger) and both sets of our parents have been married for over 25 years. I'm really hoping that sometime soon, my boyfriend pops the question, then the gamer/anime wedding can be planned.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-11T05:23:47Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660263</id>
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    <title>Comment from Venugopal G on 2008-11-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Venugopal G</name>
        <uri>http://www.sundarakeralam.blog.co.in</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.sundarakeralam.blog.co.in">
        <![CDATA[<p>Happy Aniversary Mr. Dash ( belated )</p>

<p>I cant say anything about ur writing, but the World. <br />
Vinod</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-11T09:48:46Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660270</id>
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    <title>Comment from Twanna A. Hines (funky brown chick) on 2008-11-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>Twanna A. Hines (funky brown chick)</name>
        <uri>http://www.funkybrownchick.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Happy anniversary. Very BEAUTIFUL post, btw!!</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-19T07:33:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660272</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chris Ceppi on 2008-11-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris Ceppi</name>
        <uri>http://ceppi.blogs.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great post Anil! Please update after you have min of 2 kids - could use your optimistic perspective on that part of the adventure!</p>

<p>Best,<br />
Chris</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-20T22:15:47Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660275</id>
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    <title>Comment from JRHelgeson on 2008-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>JRHelgeson</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The problem with Same-Sex Marriage is NOT what happens now, but what happens NEXT. I am 100% for Gay couples obtaining the same rights and privileges that I enjoy with my spouse. What is at issue is using the term Marriage.<p></p>

<p>First and foremost, I do not want children in grade school to be asked "do you want to marry a boy, or a girl?" which is terribly confusing for a child. And to ask anything different would be considered bigoted or intolerant when it is no such thing. "That won't happen" You say? Too late, it already has happened.<p></p>

<p>Once the institution of marriage is no longer defined as being between one man and one woman, then the next step will be polygamous marriage of one man, n+1 women.  And why not? The guidelines have now been reset that as long as they love each other, they should be able to tie those bonds in matrimony. Proponents say that "Oh, that won't happen..." but that, I'm sorry to say is just wishful thinking.<p></p>

<p>The next step from that is brother-sister marriage, father-daughter, and every other obscene combination.  No, we cannot open this Pandora's box.<p></p>

<p>Just look at what is happened to "Human Rights" where the life of a human is now no longer any more value than the life of a bacteria, such as what has been done in Ecuador where human rights have now been extended to every. living. organism.<p></p>

<p>I guess this means that either every germ is now precious and invaluable, or you can treat undesirable people as you would a mere infection. Time to add a little chlorine to the gene pool? Not a problem. These are not human rights abuses, we're just fighting an 'infection' of undesirables.</p></p></p></p></p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-24T15:49:20Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660277</id>
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    <title>Comment from N. on 2008-11-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>N.</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'm happy for you, sincerely. But I believe that a marriage as short as three years long, not qualify you to speak so loud. Let's talk in 10 years, kids included, and we could talk with more knowledge on the issue. :). Regards.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-26T09:28:54Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:660287</id>
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    <title>Comment from Michael Finocchiaro on 2008-11-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Michael Finocchiaro</name>
        <uri>http://mfinocchiaro.wordpress.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://mfinocchiaro.wordpress.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the post. I think that kids (especially the first one) change the equilibrium quite a lot and sometimes tend to strain things to a close-to-intolerable limit for the couple. That being said, I am, as you seem to be, a believer in the idea that things can be worked out given two adults given enough communication and love. <br />
In another vein, I was also very disappointed with my state's (FL) broad rejection of gay marriage as well as California's. Perhaps we are still a generation or so away from us heteros accepting that other equally valid models for relationships exist and need to be protected.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-30T13:14:32Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:dashes.com,2008:/anil//1.7010-comment:661481</id>
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    <title>Comment from lewis.elizabeth on 2009-10-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>lewis.elizabeth</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>So, I'm about a year late to the party on this, but I feel compelled to comment anyway. </p>

<p>I got engaged the day after Prop 8 passed, and the juxtaposition of the two events weirded the experience for me, greatly. I blogged about here: http://innerteub.com/2008/11/07/what-a-difference-a-gay-makes/</p>

<p>I was happy to see this post. I wish people would stop ragging on marriage as this "box to check" to be a successful adult and instead see it for what it is: an opportunity, if done right, to increase quality of life. Good times.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-10-14T21:19:57Z</published>
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