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  <title>Comments for Behold, Intellectual Dishonesty!</title>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149</id>
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    <published>2005-05-24T19:43:22Z</published>
    <updated>2005-08-12T06:49:59Z</updated>
    <title>Behold, Intellectual Dishonesty!</title>
    <summary>I am thinking of creating an award for each week&apos;s best display of intellectual dishonesty. That&apos;s not people who are lying, but rather people who...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Anil</name>
      <uri>http://anildash.com/</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p>I am thinking of creating an award for each week's best display of intellectual dishonesty. That's not people who are lying, but rather people who are deliberately saying something they either don't believe or know to be false, or that they've positioned so that audiences will draw an irrational conclusion. It's evil, it's hateful, and it's everywhere!</p>

<p>I haven't come up with a name yet, (The <span class="caps">FUD</span>dies?) and the temptation to name the awards after a particular individual is too great. Lou Dobbs just doesn't deserve any more attention. But here's some great examples that I've come across lately that deserve nominations.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1819101,00.asp">John Dvorak</a>! He's a smart guy, and a world-class troll. This time, he's deliberately conflated Microsoft's Smart Tags with del.icio.us-style tagsonomy, and thrown in some semantic web bashing along the way. Plus, didja know people hate Flash? If he were really going for it, he would have shoehorned in some Linux vs. Windows platform wars, but he managed to get a whole bunch of hot buttons into one article already, so good for him. Best of all, John clearly knows the difference between these things, but wanted to stir shit up so he ignored the distinctions. <em>That's intellectually dishonest!</em></p>

<p>Matt's pointed out <a href="http://a.wholelottanothing.org/2005/05/worst_journalis.html">another nominee</a>: <a href="http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=industryNews&amp;storyID=8564589">Susan Butler</a>! She mentions a sad anecdote of a songwriter with <span class="caps">AIDS </span>who uses his royalties to pay for his treatment and indicates that a Creative Commons license would have kept him from making enough royalties to pay for his case. Why, if I never put my blog under a CC license, he might not have <span class="caps">AIDS </span>at all. <em>That's intellectually dishonest!</em></p>

<p>Of course, there's many more examples. But facts have no place in this sort of discussion. It's time for ad hominem attacks and non sequitir arguments. I welcome suggestions for what we should name an award for intellectual dishonesty, along with a design for a badge that recipients can proudly display on their websites, or ideally, on their persons. Who's with me?</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7354</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jackson West on 2005-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jackson West</name>
        <uri>http://www.sfist.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'd call it the Novak or the Carlson if it were up to me.  And just an idea for the logo:</p>

<p>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000530B0/sr=1-2/qid=1116981933/ref=sr_1_2/104-0280908-4779150?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=3779521&s=hpc&v=glance</p>

<p>Of course, it would be the product inside that box, rendered in some abstract but internationally recognizable way.</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-24T21:47:08Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7364</id>
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    <title>Comment from JD on 2005-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>JD</name>
        <uri>http://www.grokyourworld.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How about the Bushie award?</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-24T23:10:28Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7374</id>
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    <title>Comment from Aditya Naik on 2005-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Aditya Naik</name>
        <uri>http://www.so1o.net/blog/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"Joe Schmo Award"? </p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-25T02:08:22Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7377</id>
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    <title>Comment from zandoli on 2005-05-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>zandoli</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Call it the Great White Basking Shark award and let  its acronym speak for itself.</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-25T10:41:04Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7378</id>
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    <title>Comment from Paul Ford on 2005-05-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Paul Ford</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I dig the "Fuddie." There's probably a Warner Bros. lawsuit waiting to happen, though, with Elmer. How about the OMGSTFU Award?</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-25T12:11:39Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7379</id>
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    <title>Comment from apb on 2005-05-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>apb</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"She mentions a sad anecdote of a songwriter with AIDS who uses his royalties to pay for his treatment and indicates that a Creative Commons license would have kept him from making enough royalties to pay for his case."</p>

<p>I fail to see how that is intellectually dishonest.  If anything, *you* are being dishonest.  A creative commons license means that no royalties are expected nor due, whereas a standard music industry license means that royalties will be paid and it's enforced.  So in this one instance it would appear to be true what Susan stated. </p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-25T16:58:17Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7382</id>
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    <title>Comment from Karan on 2005-05-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Karan</name>
        <uri>http://www.flummel.com/ee</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think you should call it the "Dude who  <br />
Intellectualizes Like a Degreed Orangutan" or the DILDO.</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-27T14:13:53Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7383</id>
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    <title>Comment from Blog Sceptic on 2005-05-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Blog Sceptic</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Just check out blogs like Instapundit or that drooling idiot Jeff Jarvis - these guys live in a parallel, black is white world where no fact can ever intrude on their carved-in-stone prejudices</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2005-05-27T20:33:22Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7386</id>
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    <title>Comment from Simon Cox on 2005-05-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Simon Cox</name>
        <uri>http://www.simoncox.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think the award should be called the :</p>

<p>"Pants on Fire!" award.</p>

<p>As in the children's rhyme: <br />
"Liar Liar, your pants are on fire." which seems somewhat appropriate.</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-29T07:49:38Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7391</id>
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    <title>Comment from DaveMc500Hats on 2005-05-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>DaveMc500Hats</name>
        <uri>http://www.simplyhired.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The IDIOT awards, stands for "Intellectual Dishonesty, It's Out There"</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-31T12:03:35Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:7439</id>
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    <title>Comment from Pete Prodoehl on 2005-06-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Pete Prodoehl</name>
        <uri>http://rasterweb.net/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think 'Dvorak' is already used as a term for boneheaded anti-Apple reporting by some of the Mac fanatics... (I seem to remember 'Your Mac Life' giving out the Dvorak award.)</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-06-27T15:29:11Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:13149</id>
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    <title>Comment from killabyte on 2005-12-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>killabyte</name>
        <uri>http://www.geocities.com/too_many_taken_ids_damnit/theweb.html</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Call it the Really Elongated Tubular Ass-probe Rheumatised Dyslexic Enterprised Dumbass awards and let the acronym speak for itself. (RETARDED awards.)</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-12-20T04:36:27Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.dashes.com,2005:/anil//1.2149-comment:353832</id>
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    <title>Comment from Anonymous on 2008-02-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Anonymous</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How about the "The Sophist Award"?   In Greek days, Plato's mission was to expose the "Sophists", folks who taught arguement skills using cheap hollow rhetoric tricks for pay.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-07T15:04:33Z</published>
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